When was the last time you checked on your lands at the tax bureau or
with the bureau of conveyance?
with the bureau of conveyance?
Today for the third time with the third family in a row, I went to
Real Property Tax Office to see about their land & tax situation.
Today for the third time, something they didn’t know about happened
to their land. Today, I am advising you on behalf of NAHKR to please
go run your name in the tax offices or in the Bureau of Conveyance.
Real Property Tax Office to see about their land & tax situation.
Today for the third time, something they didn’t know about happened
to their land. Today, I am advising you on behalf of NAHKR to please
go run your name in the tax offices or in the Bureau of Conveyance.
Even if you don’t know anything, go run your name and check.
Today, while accompanying one kupuna to seek information regarding
the two lands he has now, only to find out that he lost two other plots
of land that he did not even know he had. One of those plots of land has
some of the dirtiest and disliked foreigners crowding it and making
money off our culture. The other plot of land is currently an ice haven.
been illegally sold and they found out when their tax money was returned
to them. When we went down to the office, they were told that it was
sold due to negligence (failure) to pay taxes. So when our kupuna pulled
out a wad of receipts for over the years, the office was shocked. She had
been paying her taxes all this time and now how are they supposed to undo
what they had done? Unfortunately, that kupuna has passed and her
family is not interested in the fight. They feel as though they will lose
anyway, so why even try? This is more common than you think.
save you land tax money, go for it. You don’t know if your descendants
are going to be responsible enough to keep it. By filing kuleana, you
are assuring that it will be in their hands for a few more generations.
Please continue to communicate with your family, that they need to stay
on top of these things and check on behalf of their children as well.
Always be sure that as soon as you receive the land, that you find one
akamai kanaka who is unbiased, to help you make sure you leave the
land behind in a way that will save the land for future generations.
Always make sure your ohana knows to keep the filings current.
For the greater information of all, the Kuleana filings have always
been around, so don’t let your local office tell you different. Its one page
and you need your genealogy only back to the person it was given to -
now do you see why you can only leave it to your lineage? One has to prove
that they are lineal descendant to that property, or it loses the
adjudication (seal) of the Kingdom, and can be lost at anytime for any reason,
after that.
Please feel free to send any questions to kanakafreedom@gmail.com
Aloha Kekahi i Kekahi
The last trip to the RPT Office left us angry. Another kupuna went to pay
taxes a few months ago and was told that her ohana land did not exist.
She contacted me, came to Maui and checked in the office to discover
that they had “cut & pasted” (on the computer) her land on top of
someone else’s. She had been paying her taxes on time for 39 years
on this plot of land and was going to build her retirement home on
it this year. When she went to check the land before having it surveyed, it
was a construction site. Someone in the BoC had to have deliberately done
that in some dirty deal.
The trip prior to that, to the same RPT Office another kupuna’s land had taxes a few months ago and was told that her ohana land did not exist.
She contacted me, came to Maui and checked in the office to discover
that they had “cut & pasted” (on the computer) her land on top of
someone else’s. She had been paying her taxes on time for 39 years
on this plot of land and was going to build her retirement home on
it this year. When she went to check the land before having it surveyed, it
was a construction site. Someone in the BoC had to have deliberately done
that in some dirty deal.
been illegally sold and they found out when their tax money was returned
to them. When we went down to the office, they were told that it was
sold due to negligence (failure) to pay taxes. So when our kupuna pulled
out a wad of receipts for over the years, the office was shocked. She had
been paying her taxes all this time and now how are they supposed to undo
what they had done? Unfortunately, that kupuna has passed and her
family is not interested in the fight. They feel as though they will lose
anyway, so why even try? This is more common than you think.
On all three occasions while there, I had asked for the “Kuleana” paper
to file. On the first two occasions, they did not know what I was talking
about and they even had me questioning myself. But the second time,
I managed to get the lady to look hard enough and she found it,
citing that this must be something new because she never heard of
it before. She stated that she had been working there for quite some
time and this was the first she ever heard of it.
When I told her that I had seen a copy of one filed in 2012, she was
completely baffled. In conversation, she told me that she knew
Hawaiians were in a predicament over our land but she did not
understand much about it. So I happily gave her a copy of my
resources and she wearily accepted.
She must have read and learned more because this time, the third
time, she was more knowledgeable about what she was talking about, but
to file. On the first two occasions, they did not know what I was talking
about and they even had me questioning myself. But the second time,
I managed to get the lady to look hard enough and she found it,
citing that this must be something new because she never heard of
it before. She stated that she had been working there for quite some
time and this was the first she ever heard of it.
When I told her that I had seen a copy of one filed in 2012, she was
completely baffled. In conversation, she told me that she knew
Hawaiians were in a predicament over our land but she did not
understand much about it. So I happily gave her a copy of my
resources and she wearily accepted.
She must have read and learned more because this time, the third
time, she was more knowledgeable about what she was talking about, but
I had one point question of another debate to ask. In a debate amongst
ourselves the other day, someone tried to tell me that they could leave
the lands to whomever they wanted to, whether or not it was RP lands.
I explained to them how these lands differ from lands regularly titled
through some real estate transaction. I explained to them that one
should NEVER take these lands out of the hands of the direct lineage,
no matter what.
I know its not considered ‘sovereign’ to file state papers, but if its going to ourselves the other day, someone tried to tell me that they could leave
the lands to whomever they wanted to, whether or not it was RP lands.
I explained to them how these lands differ from lands regularly titled
through some real estate transaction. I explained to them that one
should NEVER take these lands out of the hands of the direct lineage,
no matter what.
save you land tax money, go for it. You don’t know if your descendants
are going to be responsible enough to keep it. By filing kuleana, you
are assuring that it will be in their hands for a few more generations.
Please continue to communicate with your family, that they need to stay
on top of these things and check on behalf of their children as well.
Always be sure that as soon as you receive the land, that you find one
akamai kanaka who is unbiased, to help you make sure you leave the
land behind in a way that will save the land for future generations.
Always make sure your ohana knows to keep the filings current.
For the greater information of all, the Kuleana filings have always
been around, so don’t let your local office tell you different. Its one page
and you need your genealogy only back to the person it was given to -
now do you see why you can only leave it to your lineage? One has to prove
that they are lineal descendant to that property, or it loses the
adjudication (seal) of the Kingdom, and can be lost at anytime for any reason,
after that.
Please feel free to send any questions to kanakafreedom@gmail.com
Aloha Kekahi i Kekahi
NAHKR
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